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and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promising to stay in touch with each other after lunch. >> yeah. it was probably -- i've heard some people say the most awkward conversation mitt romney has had since his last conversation. you know, for what it's worth, like, i don't think that either of them really want to stay in touch. i mean, the whole thing was a sill symbolic gesture and i think we can say it is a classy move to do this. it is something that is -- it's -- even if it's purely symbolic, sometimes we need the symboli symbolism. sometimes we need to say, especially after thanksgivin
and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it,...
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. >> one issue is that it's senator john kerry becomes secretary of state john kerry and suddenly there's a special election in new jersey and some people were thinking about the opportunity for republicans. >> scott brown. >> scott brown is very popular and that's one angle. conservatives also have policy priorities, and one thing we have noticed is that while senator collins has gone one way, criticizing susan rice. you have mccain and graham backing away of some of their sharper criticisms of susan rice. i suspect that there are also people that are skeptical that senator kerry shares that vision. >> he's more dovish than rice. >> exactly. and susan rice might be more hawkish to open leaning forward policy. >> a lot of folks including bill krystol who actually care about these things, are saying wait a second, republicans, susan rice might be a better pick than john kerr e. >> he was very careful and he's been careful to not say he's for or against susan rice but he did have a warning for the president. here he is. >> i would just ask that the president step away from all the buzz arou
. >> one issue is that it's senator john kerry becomes secretary of state john kerry and suddenly there's a special election in new jersey and some people were thinking about the opportunity for republicans. >> scott brown. >> scott brown is very popular and that's one angle. conservatives also have policy priorities, and one thing we have noticed is that while senator collins has gone one way, criticizing susan rice. you have mccain and graham backing away of some of their...
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john kerry tried everything he could on the senate floor to show republicans the way to vote for this treaty. >> it really isn't controversial. what this treaty says is very simple. it just says that you can't discriminate against the disabled. it says that other countries have to do what we did 22 years ago when we set the example for the world and passed the americans with disabilities act. >> the treaty was supported by organizations representing people with disabilities and veterans groups but that was not good enough for 38 republicans. it was supported by senator john mccain, himself a disabled veteran. >> bob dole has been our leader on the issue of disabilities from the moment he stepped foot into the chamber. to bob, it is unthinkable that americans could not get over a curb or enter a school building or even watch a debate in this chamber if they were in a wheelchair. >> but that was not good enough for 38 of john mccain's republican colleagues, including his usual ally, lindsay graham. treaties take years to negotiate before they come to a vote. this treaty, though signed b
john kerry tried everything he could on the senate floor to show republicans the way to vote for this treaty. >> it really isn't controversial. what this treaty says is very simple. it just says that you can't discriminate against the disabled. it says that other countries have to do what we did 22 years ago when we set the example for the world and passed the americans with disabilities act. >> the treaty was supported by organizations representing people with disabilities and...
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here at home it was supported by a bipartisan group, including john kerry and john mccain. but the vote fell short of the 66 required votes, two-thirds required. an issue is belief by some republicans, many of them, that by signing the treaty the united states would somehow surrender some sovereignty to united nations. with me now are two advocates of this treaty, senator john kerry of massachusetts, chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and ted kennedy jr., a long-time champion of disability rights and president of the mal rvme marwood group. it's hard for me to understand the ideological. of notion of something it taken over in our world that we have to fight even though we can't put our finger on it. >> they argued they were afraid we were giving up sovereignty of nation and somehow the united nations would be able to tell us what to do. neither are true. there is no requirement in this treaty whatsoever that any law in the united states would be changed, no new right would be created that doesn't exist already in the united states and most importantly becau
here at home it was supported by a bipartisan group, including john kerry and john mccain. but the vote fell short of the 66 required votes, two-thirds required. an issue is belief by some republicans, many of them, that by signing the treaty the united states would somehow surrender some sovereignty to united nations. with me now are two advocates of this treaty, senator john kerry of massachusetts, chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and ted kennedy jr., a long-time champion of...
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george bush didn't do this with john kerry in 2004. it is a grace note. >> is that ir a chance that mitt romney might contribute to this administration for the good of the country when it comes to business? he obviously made it very clear that he didn't think that president obama knew anything about business or the economy. he was the expert. so why not help out? >> i wouldn't make him treasury secretary. you wouldn't want to have that tax plan put into effect. >> he could be in charge of building new business or something. >> look, it's -- this is a moment when american democracy functions. it's rare, as i said before, that presidents do this or that the winning candidate does this. there is the iconic picture of kennedy and nixon in 1960 when nixon went to visit the preelect. more common is what happened with franklin roosevelt who is sitting in the car with herbert hoover. he won't speak to roosevelt. roosevelt points up at the steel on the commerce department building and says, isn't that a remarkable superstructure. hoover keeps g
george bush didn't do this with john kerry in 2004. it is a grace note. >> is that ir a chance that mitt romney might contribute to this administration for the good of the country when it comes to business? he obviously made it very clear that he didn't think that president obama knew anything about business or the economy. he was the expert. so why not help out? >> i wouldn't make him treasury secretary. you wouldn't want to have that tax plan put into effect. >> he could be...
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tonight, leader pelosi joins me for an exclusive interview. >>> senator john kerry like you have never seen him before. the statesman from massachusetts scolds the radical right after senate republicans block a u.n. treaty on rights for the disabled because they are concerned about home schooling. you don't want to miss this tape. >>> plus my interview with ohio senator sherrod brown on what looks like a massive win for progressives and elizabeth warren. >>> then senator debbi stabenow of michigan on the latest in the fight to end republican obstruction. and the people creating petitions on the white house website are getting more and more creative. we'll tell you what the new petition to build a death star. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. democrats are determined to extend the middle class tax cuts before the end of the year. that's the bottom line. party leaders and members are all on the same page. president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top
tonight, leader pelosi joins me for an exclusive interview. >>> senator john kerry like you have never seen him before. the statesman from massachusetts scolds the radical right after senate republicans block a u.n. treaty on rights for the disabled because they are concerned about home schooling. you don't want to miss this tape. >>> plus my interview with ohio senator sherrod brown on what looks like a massive win for progressives and elizabeth warren. >>> then...
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. >>> plus, the interesting title senator john mccain gave senator kerry a couple of hours ago at an event. we will play you the exchange. >>> it's the hillary clinton tribute video creating a lot of political buzz today. >> you've been one of the best secretaries of state in american history. finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship, and here's what i know. you haven't been just one of my closest partners but a great friend. >> you can join our conversation on twitter. find us @tamronhall a anand and @newsnation. ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all
. >>> plus, the interesting title senator john mccain gave senator kerry a couple of hours ago at an event. we will play you the exchange. >>> it's the hillary clinton tribute video creating a lot of political buzz today. >> you've been one of the best secretaries of state in american history. finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship, and here's what i know. you haven't been just one of my closest partners but a great friend. >> you can join our...
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and john kerry was leading it on the floor with john mccain. it was one of those bipartisan coalitions of veterans, wounded veterans, mccain and others, and the wounded warriors. the chamber of commerce. this is basically to take the american standard that bush 41 passed. it was his bill. >> george bush. >> george bush 41's bill spread it to the rest of the world. his son, george w., approved this treaty. it was sent up by president obama in '09, the senate foreign relations committee passed it easily, and then these republicans abandoned it on the floor. people are crying on the senate floor. >> john mccain gave such a passionate speech. so you have, mike barnicle, american hero, war veteran, john mccain, talking about how we help the disabled across the world with weeping american heroes who were wounded in war, watching. you have the standard set by one republican president. the treaty drawn up by another republican president, george w. bush. and voted down with bob dole yet another american hero, war hero, watching. i'm actually dumbfounded
and john kerry was leading it on the floor with john mccain. it was one of those bipartisan coalitions of veterans, wounded veterans, mccain and others, and the wounded warriors. the chamber of commerce. this is basically to take the american standard that bush 41 passed. it was his bill. >> george bush. >> george bush 41's bill spread it to the rest of the world. his son, george w., approved this treaty. it was sent up by president obama in '09, the senate foreign relations...
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. >> what about john kerry? you met with john kerry. >> i also met with susan rice. i've known john kerry for many years. >> what were those meetings like? >> good. thorough, deep. yeah. someone who has been ob this issue for a long period of time. he visited the region quite often. >> you think kerry would make a good secretary of state? >> he's been -- whatever it is he did. and i have reason to believe that he would definitely perform exceptionally well in that position. >> speaking of senators, there are some people on capitol hill who say one of their major concerns is whether now with this new status you will go to the international criminal court and, for example, try to cite israel for war crimes. can you say categorically you won't do that? >> what i can say is i think it really is very important to use what happened yesterday as a building block toward doing that which susan rice was talking about yesterday. yes, by virtue of putting a button it's not going to happen. but it's the same forum that have given israel that birth certificate some 65 years ago. a
. >> what about john kerry? you met with john kerry. >> i also met with susan rice. i've known john kerry for many years. >> what were those meetings like? >> good. thorough, deep. yeah. someone who has been ob this issue for a long period of time. he visited the region quite often. >> you think kerry would make a good secretary of state? >> he's been -- whatever it is he did. and i have reason to believe that he would definitely perform exceptionally well in...
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i find -- again i think john kerry is qualified. the question is are they going to bring the passion? are they going to bring extra charisma needed into the role? the funny thing arne duncan was rumored to be nominated. more likely he would become a stripper than secretary of state. >> jon huntsman name has been thrown around as well. jon huntsman. so yeah, but susan rice again, i think that obama is going to nominate her and it is rumored that john kerry might be secretary of defense. jon: we're going to leave it there. we'll see. it is the president's choice to make. >> that's right. jon: we'll see which choice he does make. thank you both, marjorie clifton, angela mcglowan. >> thank you. jenna: speaker boehner talking about this morning so far, met with treasury secretary tim geithner, all of this having to do with the fiscal crisis and what would happen. what will become of these negotiations between republicans and democrats. we'll take a listen to the speaker a little bit here before we go to break. you can watch the entire re
i find -- again i think john kerry is qualified. the question is are they going to bring the passion? are they going to bring extra charisma needed into the role? the funny thing arne duncan was rumored to be nominated. more likely he would become a stripper than secretary of state. >> jon huntsman name has been thrown around as well. jon huntsman. so yeah, but susan rice again, i think that obama is going to nominate her and it is rumored that john kerry might be secretary of defense....
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but let me just say, john kerry, defense, bad idea. who you need in defense is someone who knows his or her way around the defense budget because there's going to be pain there. they're going to have to cut things. john kerry isn't that guy. he'd make a great secretary of state. the great thing about having panetta there is that he's an old budget guy. >> hey, i don't think panetta's leaving -- by the way, panetta's not in a hurry to leave. >> right. >> you know, he's not going to stay four years. i wouldn't be surprised if he stays almost all of the 2013 calendar year. >> here's the biggest difference between leon panetta and myself, i am very anxious to leave. >> i know you are. >> you're always anxious to leave. to take a nap. >> by the way, i have to root for alabama. this is like the hardest 40 whatever we're going to have, 35 days. to end up rooting for alabama. >> that was one of the greatest college games of all time. >> it was a fantastic game. >> and i have a real hook in for bcs tickets, chuck, if you want to talk to me late
but let me just say, john kerry, defense, bad idea. who you need in defense is someone who knows his or her way around the defense budget because there's going to be pain there. they're going to have to cut things. john kerry isn't that guy. he'd make a great secretary of state. the great thing about having panetta there is that he's an old budget guy. >> hey, i don't think panetta's leaving -- by the way, panetta's not in a hurry to leave. >> right. >> you know, he's not...
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and if you look at this, for president obama versus john kerry, again looking at this through '04 and the 12 lens the president did the same thing. topped him by five points in the industrial metropolis counties and increased the campus centers by a point in those counties. in fact, it was not a surprise. according to the director of the patchwork nation project he was on the show back in july and here is what he said about where the election would be won and lost. >> i can tell you right now with a pretty good degree of certainty how nine of the types are going to go in the fall. i mean, i know which ones are going to go democratic and republican. it isn't complicated. there are a couple -- but it is about the margins and whether or not you can paear a couple poins off the worker centers or if romney can take a couple points off. some tend to swing a little more. >> well, here they are. here's the three areas he was talking about. boom towns, service workers centers which are older, poorer, and rural, and the mondey suburbs. romney under performed and obama over performed in boom tow
and if you look at this, for president obama versus john kerry, again looking at this through '04 and the 12 lens the president did the same thing. topped him by five points in the industrial metropolis counties and increased the campus centers by a point in those counties. in fact, it was not a surprise. according to the director of the patchwork nation project he was on the show back in july and here is what he said about where the election would be won and lost. >> i can tell you right...
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you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your message that did resonate with the american people and after a pause come back and start emphasizing that in important ways, that i think is the path to really helping to make a difference after your run. >> reporter: another good step? mending fences with your opponent. romney seemed to do that with this white house lunch with president obama. don't cry too much for romney though because he still has three things, family, faith and financial security. yes, and remember, romney is a multimillionaire several times over. so it's not like he needed the job. right now romney is subletting a space his ton's investment firm in boston. he'll be in the same building, i think it's a safe bet, wolf, we will be hearing from him again in some capacity or another, wolf. >> i'm sure we will. he'll do just fine. >> right. >> thanks very much. >>> the accused mastermind behind 9/11 potentially closer to coming to this very country he allegedly conspired to attack. >>> m
you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your message that did resonate with the american people and after a pause come back and start emphasizing that in important ways, that i think is the path to really helping to make a difference after your run. >> reporter: another good step? mending fences with your opponent. romney seemed to do that with this white house lunch with president obama. don't cry too much for romney though because he...
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with senator john kerry. >>> and on the eve of legalized marijuana. pot smokers find themselves in legal limbo. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room. >>> may hem exploded outside the presidential palace in cairo. two people are dead in what was once largely peaceful protests against the egyptian president mohammad morsi, anti-government demonstrators charged presidential supporters with rocks and molotov cocktails after being kicked off palace grounds. and now there are reports of masked men storming the headquarters of morsi's muslim brotherhood. reza sayah is in cairo. >> reporter: just a remarkable scene, where you have opponents of president morsi and supporters of president morsi locked in an incredibly tense stand-off. let's set the scene for you. that's the presidential palace over there. this is the main road that runs in front of the palace. these are some old train tracks that have divided this road on this side you have opponents of the president chanting an
with senator john kerry. >>> and on the eve of legalized marijuana. pot smokers find themselves in legal limbo. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room. >>> may hem exploded outside the presidential palace in cairo. two people are dead in what was once largely peaceful protests against the egyptian president mohammad morsi, anti-government demonstrators charged presidential supporters with rocks...
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i would say john kerry because i know senator kerry. i don't know if i've met ambassador rice before. but to be honest with you, both of them are imminently qualified people. i can't imagine either one of them would do anything other than a spectacular job. but i'm a political guy, not a foreign policy guy. i'm just unable to really render a very knowledgeable -- >> let me rephrase the question. politically speaking, who would the president be better off nominating? >> politically speaking? probably ambassador rice because she would represent sort of new and different administration. but i don't think people when they look at the secretary of state, i don't think that there's much of a political gain there. i say that, but i say it without a lot of conviction or a lot of authority. i think the one that you want is the one that does the best job because if they get in there and do something wrong, the politics of it are horrendous for you. i'm just not that -- that's not my area of expertise. >> mary, what's your thought? >> he cannot no
i would say john kerry because i know senator kerry. i don't know if i've met ambassador rice before. but to be honest with you, both of them are imminently qualified people. i can't imagine either one of them would do anything other than a spectacular job. but i'm a political guy, not a foreign policy guy. i'm just unable to really render a very knowledgeable -- >> let me rephrase the question. politically speaking, who would the president be better off nominating? >> politically...
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many feel it could be john kerry. also secretary of defense they say they are trying to name here in the next couple of weeks. the question is regarding susan rice. some have brought up in the past couple of days that maybe benghazi isn't the only blemish on her record. maybe what happened on september 11st, actually reflects something that happened earlier on in her career. going back to 1998 when there were those terror bombings in kenya, and tanzania that killed more than 200 people. a dozen americans. some say susan rice failed to protect our embassies similar to what happened in 1998. >> exact same story repeated. they had the warnings. they had information that al qaeda had cells in these cities and they didn't do anything about it as far as increasing the security on these buildings and, once again, the same situation as what we saw back on september 11th. >> this came on the heels of the coal bombings. the family member was on hannity speaking about this going back to 1998. take a listen. >> what we do now is
many feel it could be john kerry. also secretary of defense they say they are trying to name here in the next couple of weeks. the question is regarding susan rice. some have brought up in the past couple of days that maybe benghazi isn't the only blemish on her record. maybe what happened on september 11st, actually reflects something that happened earlier on in her career. going back to 1998 when there were those terror bombings in kenya, and tanzania that killed more than 200 people. a dozen...
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. >>> john kerry is firing at santorum orr a treaty. they rejected the ratification of the treaty on tuesday despite appearance on the floor by former majority leader bob dole in his wheelchair all in an effort to draw support. santorum explained the opposition in a piece published in "the daily beast" saying in part, let me yoquote, our natio has been the worldwide leader. we should be telling nato and not the other way how to have dignity. senator kerry said santorum doesn't know what he's talking about. >> i have great respect for both rick and his wife karen and their daughter and their family. he is a strong family man. but he either simply hasn't read the treaty or doesn't understand it or he was just not factual in what he said because the united nations has absolutely zero, zero, i mean, zero ability to order or to tell or to even -- i mean, they can suggest but they have no legal capacity to tell the united states to do anything under this treaty. nothing. >> senator kerry referring there to santorum's daughter bella born with
. >>> john kerry is firing at santorum orr a treaty. they rejected the ratification of the treaty on tuesday despite appearance on the floor by former majority leader bob dole in his wheelchair all in an effort to draw support. santorum explained the opposition in a piece published in "the daily beast" saying in part, let me yoquote, our natio has been the worldwide leader. we should be telling nato and not the other way how to have dignity. senator kerry said santorum...
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john kerry has been campaigning hard for it. he's done everything this administration has asked in their first term. overseas, been quite engaged as chairman of the foreign relations committee. so he's certainly a very strong candidate. but at this point, even people close to the president suggest there's just a bit of a question mark about how much of a fight he wants and how much it will come down to getting somebody he believes in and he's close to into that job. >> congressman cleaver, your thoughts on susan rice as a potential nominee. >> well, i think susan rice is imminently qualified and capable of being secretary of state. my only concern is political, and it is that the president uses up so much of his good will as he begins his second term that it does not last long enough for him to get through some of the major initiatives that we all hope will be brought forth like an energy policy. there are some -- there are dangers either way, if he goes with kerry, there is a political concern about the seat in massachusetts. s
john kerry has been campaigning hard for it. he's done everything this administration has asked in their first term. overseas, been quite engaged as chairman of the foreign relations committee. so he's certainly a very strong candidate. but at this point, even people close to the president suggest there's just a bit of a question mark about how much of a fight he wants and how much it will come down to getting somebody he believes in and he's close to into that job. >> congressman...
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kerry the senator from massachusetts had a very good week and it looks like republicans would confirm him for just about anything that the president wanted to appoint him to. >> morris, your picks. >> we'll let him appoint him to secretary of defense. my worst week is benjamin netanyahu. this guy has a real problem on his hand. you know, the u.n. situation, west bank expansion, picking the wrong guy for president. netanyahu, you've got a problem and you have to figure it out quickly. the best week for me is what i'm calling obama 2.0. the president is out there and this is new obama and gauge taking his message to the american people and strong leadership and expect more of this, more of an activist president in the next four years. >> okay. susan, how about yours? >> i think ambassador susan rice had a horrible week. not only, it started out with the best intentions going up to meet with these senators, but especially after a meeting with senator collins from maine, it just really went downhill from there and now it seems like the obama administration can sail through senator kerry,
kerry the senator from massachusetts had a very good week and it looks like republicans would confirm him for just about anything that the president wanted to appoint him to. >> morris, your picks. >> we'll let him appoint him to secretary of defense. my worst week is benjamin netanyahu. this guy has a real problem on his hand. you know, the u.n. situation, west bank expansion, picking the wrong guy for president. netanyahu, you've got a problem and you have to figure it out...
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kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll move. and then they have to talk about how they're going to slash spending in medicare, to save medicare, how they'll have to slash spending in medicaid to save medicaid. their political problem on the other side of this tax debate is so much bigger than the republican problem. they're being too clever by half here. >> both sides have complicated hands. and if the democrats, we achieve what the president and some democrats in the senate are asking for in a narrow way around taxes, you're absolutely right. just as an aside on the bush era, this is the first time we didn't go to war where we didn't pay for it. some of the things the democra
kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll move. and then they have to...